Rumsfeld quotes & Big Brother

Via IMAO (thanks n00b):

... they'd prefer it [Israel] not be there and they'd like it to be put in the sea. And Israel has opined that it would prefer not to get put in the sea, and as a result, over a period of decades, it has arranged itself so it hasn't been put in the sea" -- Donald Rumsfeld

Here's more of this refreshing style of his.

Of course, this is the sort of quote that makes people ask "Why are they there in the first place?"

Was James Balfour wrong, declaring support for a Jewish Homeland? Were the British wrong, as in not seeing the longterm consequences of their tactical decisions? Maybe.

But there are other views as well: where is this "pan-Arab Brotherhood of Muslims" in defending their rights or even just trying to bring forth a unified message? Where were the Arafats in 1917? Why were the Palestinians on the streets screaming "Death to America!", but also "Death to the Arab leaders!" during their Intifadas? Opposed to all the "flapping and the fluttering" in the last 80 years, what is happening in Iraq right now is very hopeful:

For the first time in more than three decades, Iraqi Shi'a will be able to observe the holy day of Ashura and its associated period of mourning this year without the shadow of the Ba'athist regime hanging over the ceremonies.

although not easy ...

The controversy over Big Brother came as another Arab reality TV show ended. Al Hawa Sawa - which means On Air Together - paraded eight women from across the Arab world before suitors in a luxury apartment for 24 hours a day. The men could contact the woman of their choice to propose marriage. The show was criticised for being too liberal. It ended on Monday when one of the last two contestants said she refused to get married.

Well, history shows us that people don't always know how to exactly handle their newly obtained freedom. Not that they're missing out on much ... yet ... .

20:20 Gepost door Flint | Permalink | Commentaren (4) |  Facebook |


Thousand-and-one-night and other Islam fairy tales BB-arabic shows that Muslim fundamentalism eventually will succomb by its own internal contradictions. Nothing can stay the subversive violence of testosterone. Not everybody is willing to wait for the 24 virgins in the paradise of Allah (his name be praised!)

Gepost door: VH | 02-03-04

Islam tales, in the showers @VH:

"Muslim fundamentalism eventually will succomb by its own internal contradictions."

In theory (or in a best-case scenario?) it should yes. But, just wondering, when did fundamentalism exactly come into Islam? Is it really a developement that came after 1917, or was it there all along?

I fully agree on the testosterone though, at least if there were any cameras in the showers ... .

Gepost door: Flint | 02-03-04

Radical islamism not so new Wahhabism (the hairshirt-zealotous form of fundamentalist [Sunni] Islam associated with al-Qaeda e tutti quanti) arose in the 18th century (well before 1917 ;-)) in what is now Saudi Arabia: it aimed to "purify" Islam of all "corrupting" influences. It is as hostile to Shia islam [even moreso to Sufism] as it is to the "kuffar" (infidels). The Muslim Brotherhood arose initially as a political and social "reform" movement in Egypt: to the question "why did the great Islamic empire decay while the infidel West is flourishing?" it offered "because the Arabs are bad Muslims" and "Jihad now".
Had the Jewish Homeland been created in Canada or Uganda (rather than on the site of the First and Second Commonwealths), these factors would still have run their course. Another non-Muslim polity might have borne the brunt of their rage (i.e. Lebanon might have gotten in even deeper shite than it already is).
Also, while Balfour and some other British politicians (particularly Churchill, then between ministries) favored a Jewish Homeland in the so-called "Palestine", their designs were deliberately sabotaged by the toffee-nosed chumps in their own Foreign Office, with conflicting agreements (Sykes-Picot etc.)

Gepost door: Former Belgian | 07-03-04

Thanks for the explanatory comment FB, this is the sort of thing that makes me love blogging; to learn from each other. Have a nice weekend! Too bad, mines almost finished :-( ... .

Gepost door: Flint | 07-03-04

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